Senator NASH (New South Wales—Deputy Leader of The Nationals in the Senate and Assistant Minister for Health) (14:42): What I can confirm is that this is a fair, measured and responsible budget. What I can confirm is that this is a budget that is going to lead people to jobs and prosperity. What I can confirm is that this is a budget that is going to give people hope for the future and it is going to give them a positive way forward, across this country, unlike previous Labor budgets that we have seen in the past. I might refer those opposite to Budget Paper No. 1. Those opposite may not have noticed yet, but overall the health budget increases year on year—indeed, to more than $7.6 billion over the forward estimates. And isn't it ironic that it is those on the other side, including the failed former finance minister, that are responsible— The PRESIDENT: Pause the clock. Senator Moore: Mr President, I rise on a point of order going to direct relevance. The question asked for confirmation of whether $60 billion worth of cuts to health and hospitals over the next decade are locked in—not the general background to the budget, not the general health budget, but the cuts of $60 billion. The PRESIDENT: The minister was responding in terms of Budget Paper No. 1, which addresses some of the detail. Minister, you have the call. Senator NASH: Thank you, Mr President. Indeed, I was getting to that part of my answer before I was interrupted by those on the other side. As the senator mentioned, the 10-year funding outlook from the Labor government was absolutely made-up money. It never existed; it was never there. They are talking about cuts from money that they were never going to deliver, and they were never going to deliver it because they left us a trajectory of $667 billion worth of debt. That is money we were never going to get to. That is why we focus on making sure that we address the positives. In the forward estimates from this government, overall, the total budget for health funding is going to increase—$7.6 billion.