Senator CORMANN (Western Australia—Minister for Finance) (14:15): May I congratulate Senator Di Natale on his elevation to the leadership of the Greens. Indeed, may I congratulate the Greens senators in this chamber that they have listened to my strong advice to pursue regime change in the Greens. I am very pleased that there has been regime change in the Greens. I hope that the new Greens leader will listen to his Green constituency when it comes to a very important budget measure from last year, which is to ensure that we maintain the real value of the excise on fuel. Because, of course, given that there is an expectation that we maintain the real value— Senator Di Natale: Mr President, I rise on a point of order on relevance. I know question time has become a bit of a joke in this place, but I asked who he was listening to in reference to some very direct budget measures, and he has brought in an issue that has nothing to do with the question. Can you please direct his attention to the question. The PRESIDENT: Senator Di Natale, you had a very, very long preamble to your question, mentioning a number of facts, and then you quickly asked at the end, 'Can you say who you were listening to?' I did hear the minister say he was actually listening to the Greens at one point. The minister has one minute and 21 seconds left in which to continue his answer. Senator CORMANN: I am quite happy to tell Senator Di Natale who we have listened to. We have listened to the men and women of Australia representing the Liberal Party and the Nationals here in the Australian parliament, who are representing their communities strongly and effectively; we have listened to many stakeholders inside and outside the parliament in relation to all of the issues that we are addressing in this budget. I would say to Senator Di Natale, in his inaugural parliamentary week as leader of the Greens, that I hope that Senator Di Natale will take a more pragmatic and a more outcomes-focused approach when it comes to engaging with the government, because there are some things that we actually could do together in the national interest. There are some things that we can do together to put Australia on a stronger foundation for the future. There happen to be some outstanding matters from last year's budget where I believe there should be a common understanding about the best way forward. So I am looking forward to working with Senator Di Natale in his new role, in making the best possible decisions in the national interest for our great country. You know, we will not always agree, but I encourage you strongly to take a constructive approach.