Senator DI NATALE (Victoria—Leader of the Australian Greens) (14:18): Mr President, I ask a supplementary question. I should let the minister know that I do not smoke cigars, but I am more than happy to have a conversation with him. Given that the Australian community do not want money to be stripped out of health care, they do not want one family pitted against another family— Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order! Senator DI NATALE: Is that an opportunity to reset the clock? The PRESIDENT: Yes, you can start again, Senator Di Natale. Senator DI NATALE: Given that the minister has said that he listens to his National and Liberal Party colleagues, rather than the broader Australian community—who do not want money to be stripped out of health care, and who do not want to pit one family against another to pay for child care—can I ask the minister: why won't you take on the big end town and make sure that everybody pays their fair share when it comes to raising revenue?