Senator JOHNSTON (Western Australia—Minister for Defence) (14:57): The simple answer is that when we assumed government we found that the situation was ever much worse than they had suggested. The shipbuilding program in South Australia was several hundred million dollars over budget— Opposition senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Pause the clock. Senator JOHNSTON: without a word of acknowledgement or contrition. This is what we inherited. Can I say that of course the $16 billion that was ripped from the Defence portfolio was relevant to a whole host of areas. Not the least was force protection. There are 42 programs that had to be deferred by Defence. Many of those were relevant to our men and women on the front line. Labor was prepared to take money out— Opposition senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order! Minister, you have four seconds. Have you concluded your answer? Senator JOHNSTON: I have concluded my answer.