Senator PAYNE (New South Wales—Minister for Human Services) (14:46): On the question of what else is occurring in this particular policy area, we have some other classic modelling which has been rolled out by the rather hysterical scaremongers. Senator Kim Carr: Where's the government's modelling? Produce the government's modelling. The PRESIDENT: Senator Carr! Senator PAYNE: There is one particular set that assumes domestic students would pay the same fees as international students. But, again, as the UWA fees show, they will be about half the typical fees for international students. In terms of further commentary, this week member institutions of the Council of Private Higher Education, known as COPHE, have said, 'Whatever we receive in Commonwealth support for students we pass on to students through reduced tuition fees.' As the Australian reported yesterday, 'Fees for courses in private colleges may fall by even half.' Certainly the indicative fee levels that have been published by COPHE show that the total cost of degrees will be significantly below what the alarmists and the scaremongers have been claiming. (Time expired)