Senator ABETZ (Tasmania—Leader of the Government in the Senate, Minister Assisting the Prime Minister for the Public Service and Minister for Employment) (14:01): I invite Senator Carr to have a look at the comments of the Prime Minister on 23 September 2014 in relation to that exact quote that I just read out for his benefit and for anybody who might be listening. Let us keep in mind that those Australians who are given the benefit of a tertiary education are likely, as a result of that tertiary education, to earn $1 million more over their lifetime than those who are not blessed with a tertiary education. That tertiary education will nevertheless—we can talk 40, 50, 60— Senator Moore: Mr President, I rise on a point of order on direct relevance. Senator Carr's question referred to which universities will students have to pay more than 50 per cent of their education. I have let it go. There are 16 seconds left. The PRESIDENT: Thank you, Senator Moore. Senator Carr did indicate a further statement he was referring to about yesterday's answer as well. Senator Abetz, you have 16 seconds left. Senator ABETZ: The question is: how much should our fellow Australian taxpayers contribute to the education of those students who will then have the benefit of earning so much more— The PRESIDENT: Senator Moore, and there were four seconds when you— Senator Moore: There was when I got to my feet. Mr President, I have a point of order specifically on the question, which was: at which universities will the cost be more than 50 per cent? That was the question. The PRESIDENT: Thank you, Senator Moore. Senator Abetz, you have four seconds left to answer the question. Senator ABETZ: Universities have not all set their fees as yet, and I answered that yesterday. (Time expired)