Senator ABETZ (Tasmania—Leader of the Government in the Senate, Minister Assisting the Prime Minister for the Public Service and Minister for Employment) (14:36): Can I say that I am absolutely delighted to learn that Senator Di Natale is such an avid listener to the Jones radio program and I would commend it to other senators too. I hope Senator Di Natale's interest is maintained. Whether or not there may be other reasons that mitigate against its use, I don't know. I will not seek to, without any briefing on this matter, provide an answer in relation to that. I will give the Prime Minister the benefit of Senator Di Natale's question and see if there is anything further that the Prime Minister might seek to add.