Senator WILLIAMS (New South Wales) (14:32): Thank you, Mr President— Senator Conroy interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Senator Conroy, if you have a point of order, you stand, in this place. You do not call from your seat. Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order! If you have a point of order you can stand. You do not sit— Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order on my right! Senator Macdonald! If you have a point of order— Senator Conroy: I wanted you to repeat your ruling. I did not hear what you said. The PRESIDENT: I asked the minister to address that part of the question that pertained to his portfolio. The minister indicated that he had no response. I cannot instruct a minister how to answer the question. The minister did stand. Senator WILLIAMS: My question is to the Assistant Treasurer, Senator Sinodinos. Can the Assistant Treasurer explain to the Senate the importance of removing the red-tape burden on Australian business, particularly for jobs creation? Opposition senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: When there is silence on my left we will proceed.