Senator LUDLAM (Western Australia) (14:14): Mr President, I have a supplementary question. Minister, have you modelled the impact on job losses in Western Australia if you are successful in winding back the renewable energy target? Will you or will you not debate the Greens on your plan for jobs in WA during the Senate by-election campaign? It is a very simple question. Government senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: On my right, you are not helping the conduct of question time.