Senator KIM CARR (Victoria) (14:24): I have a supplementary question. I take it that you are able to confirm the 18 to 1 ratio, and given that you have asked specifically that General Motors provide clarification on their future, are you aware that the CEO of General Motors-Holden, Mike Devereux, today told the Productivity Commission that Holden had provided the government with the amount of co-investment that was actually required to keep them in the country? Will the government now act on Holden's request to ensure the future of automotive manufacturing in Australia? Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order on both sides! When there is silence on both sides we will proceed. Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: I am not calling the minister until there is silence on both sides. Senator RONALDSON: Can I again confirm that this government wants a viable car manufacturing industry in this country. What the automotive industry needs—and what industry needs generally—is some stability in the decision-making process. Senator Carr belled the cat on the farce that was Labor's industry policy when he said—as Senator Abetz said yesterday and as he said in his book this year— Senator Moore: Again, I rise on a point of order on relevance. The question was about government actions and we have gone into context. We now have 21 seconds left to go to hear about the government's actions. The PRESIDENT: I do draw the minister's attention. You have got 21 seconds remaining to address the question. Senator RONALDSON: What Senator Carr said—unfortunately the Green Car Innovation Fund was abolished, leaving international company executives wondering just what they had to do to get a consistent government— The PRESIDENT: Senator Ronaldson, resume your seat. Senator Moore. Senator Moore: Again, we moved a point of order on relevance about a response to the question on government's actions and the minister has continued to read the quote that he began before the previous point of order and your direction. The PRESIDENT: I had, at 21 seconds remaining in the time to address the question, asked the minister to address the question. I draw the minister's attention to the question. There are now nine seconds remaining. Senator RONALDSON: As I say, Senator Carr said that this left executives wondering just what they had to do to get a consistent government policy commitment in Australia. Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order! Senator Moore. Senator Moore: Again, I rise on a point of order on relevance. The minister has just continued reading a quote after you have drawn his attention twice. If they cannot answer the question now, maybe he could take it on notice. Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order on both sides! I cannot instruct the minister how to answer a question. I have now drawn the ministers attention to address the question at the 21-second mark and at the nine-second mark remaining to address the question. The minister should address the question. There are two seconds remaining. Senator RONALDSON: Senator Wong just said across the table— (Time expired) Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: When there is silence, I will give Senator Carr the call.