Senator ABETZ (Tasmania—Leader of the Government in the Senate, Minister Assisting the Prime Minister for the Public Service and Minister for Employment) (14:11): Here we have a genuinely serious situation for members of the automotive manufacturing sector in this country and all that Senator Wong can engage in is the game of politics, talking about alleged destructive background briefing. Senator Wong and those on the other side would know about destructive background briefing. They would recognise it if they ever saw it because that is exactly what they did to Mr Rudd and then to Ms Gillard, and of course since the election against Mr Rudd as well. From that shambolic government we inherited a mess. From that shambolic government we have said that we will take responsibility for cleaning up that mess. Senator Kim Carr: Rubbish, indolent rubbish! The PRESIDENT: Order! Senator Carr. Senator ABETZ: I would invite Senator Carr simply to apologise to the automotive workers. Every 19 minutes a manufacturing job was lost under your stewardship in this country. The PRESIDENT: Order! Senator Abetz, resume your seat. Senator Wong is on her feet. Senator Wong: Mr President, I rise on a point of order as to relevance. I would think that workers across this nation, including in my home state of South Australia, deserve a better response from the representative of the Prime Minister in this chamber as to the behaviour of his ministers. The PRESIDENT: There is no point of order. I cannot tell a minister how to answer or respond to a question. It would assist question time if people did not interject on the answers and then invite a response at that time as well. You have six seconds remaining, Minister. Senator ABETZ: Thank you, Mr President. I thought it was a very good answer. If she thinks it could be even better, I will try to do even better for her. (Time expired)