Senator CONROY (Victoria—Leader of the Government in the Senate, Minister for Broadband, Communications and the Digital Economy and Minister Assisting the Prime Minister on Digital Productivity) (14:28): I appreciate that that was a very broad supplementary question to the original question. Possibly Senator Bob Carr might have been able to help. I utterly reject the premise of your question. Those opposite, who seek to take advantage of the situation and to manipulate it for their own cheap political advantage, are once again shamed in this chamber today. People smuggling is a serious issue and those opposite, who unfortunately do include the Greens, who refuse to get behind— Senator Hanson-Young: Mr President, I rise on a point of order. I would like clarification as to which premise of the question the minister is rejecting: the facts or that he does not want to explain. The PRESIDENT: This is now debating the issue. There is no point of order. Senator CONROY: Unfortunately, it is not just those opposite who will not support the Houston committee's recommendations. Those in the Greens' corner have also passed up the opportunity to help put people smugglers out of business. Senator Hanson-Young: Mr President, I rise on a point of order. The minister has referred to the Greens as rejecting recommendations of the Houston panel. I point out that I have just asked two questions in relation to the rejection— The PRESIDENT: There is no point of order. You are debating the issue. The time to debate the issue is after three o'clock. Senator CONROY: I do not know there is really much I can add to that. The raw nerve was exposed.