Senator CONROY (Victoria—Leader of the Government in the Senate, Minister for Broadband, Communications and the Digital Economy and Minister Assisting the Prime Minister on Digital Productivity) (14:13): At the joint committee on the NBN in April, NBN Co. noted that 36 per cent of end users were selecting a speed of 50 megabits per second or more. But these people are clearly misguided, according to the Leader of the Opposition. That is because, at Mr Abbott's policy launch, this is what Mr Abbott told all Australians: … we are absolutely confident that 25 megs is going to be enough, more than enough, for the average household. Just three years ago, Mr Abbott, on national television, could not even explain the difference between average and peak speeds. But now Mr Abbott claims to know exactly what Australian households need: 25 megs. That is all families need! At the launch of the Digital Careers program last week, I met 12-year-olds who knew more about IT than Tony Abbott. (Time expired)