Senator WATERS (Queensland) (14:22): I have a further supplementary question. Martin Ferguson was on Inside Business a couple of weeks ago, spruiking the Australian government's desire to roll out an even fluffier red carpet for the mining industry. He said that the main way the government was achieving this was through this handover of environmental powers to the states. How much is Martin Ferguson, as the mouthpiece for the mining industry— The PRESIDENT: You need to refer to a person in the other place by their correct title. Senator WATERS: How much has Minister Martin Ferguson, as the mouthpiece for the mining industry, driven this agenda to destroy environmental protection?