Senator CHRIS EVANS (Western Australia—Minister for Tertiary Education, Skills, Science and Research and Leader of the Government in the Senate) (14:37): Again, this complete denigration—this smear campaign—that Senator Brandis seeks to pursue does him no credit. I quote what his leader, Mr Abbott, said on 6 October: I hope that after the nasty personal politics of the last few months, in particular, we can focus on how do we actually build a better country. That was Mr Abbott expressing the opposition's views about nasty personal politics. They come in here today and try to smear up Minister Carr on the basis of his time as Premier—I do not know how many years ago, but a very long time ago. Then they come in and try to smear up the Prime Minister. This is an opposition with nothing to contribute to public policy in this country. They are so low that they cannot see over the ditch they have dug for themselves. Senator Brandis: Mr President, I seek leave to table the transcript of an interview between Ms Julia Gillard and Mr Peter Gordon, the managing partner of Slater & Gordon— A government senator: It is already on the public record. Senator Brandis: which is already on the public record, indeed, and which was shown to the government before question time—in which Ms Gillard admits that she created a slush fund with the AWU. The PRESIDENT: Is leave granted? Senator CHRIS EVANS: Provided Senator Brandis guarantees that it is a real document and not one that has been fixed up, yes. Senator Brandis: Thank you. I table the document, Mr President.