Senator WONG (South Australia—Minister for Finance and Deregulation) (14:26): Mr President, I do stand by that answer, and I make it very clear that the government anticipates that as we implement the Houston panel recommendations in full we should see these arrival rates drop. The Houston panel recommendations include not only the offshore processing on Nauru and Manus Island but the Malaysia transfer arrangements, which, of course, the opposition do not wish to implement. So let us be clear about who is playing politics with this issue. The people who are playing politics with this very complex public policy— Senator Brandis: Mr President, I rise on a point of order. On the issue of direct relevance, in the supplementary question Senator Cash quoted to the minister some words she had used and asked her to define one of the terms in that quoted statement: what is the government's definition of 'transitioning down'? The question asserted nothing else; it asked nothing else. It asked for the definition of the phrase 'transitioning down'. I ask you to bring the minister to the question. Senator Jacinta Collins: Mr President, on the point of order, once again Senator Brandis is not relying on the full question. She was referring to transitioning towards trending down and a definition of trending down— Senator Brandis interjecting— Senator Jacinta Collins: No, you did not read the full question, Senator Brandis, because I wrote the full question down at the time. So either you are suggesting your colleague added some additional words or there is a problem with what is in front of you. The PRESIDENT: Order! There is no point of order. I believe the minister is answering the question at this stage. The minister has 19 seconds remaining. Senator Ian Macdonald: Mr President, can I ask Senator Collins to table the written-down question that she says she wrote? The PRESIDENT: There is no point of order. Senator Wong, you have 19 seconds remaining. Senator WONG: I was assisting the— Honourable senators interjecting— Senator Ian Macdonald: Because you didn't write it down. Senator Jacinta Collins: I did write it down. Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order! The debate across the chamber is disorderly. I remind senators of that. Senator Wong, continue. You have got 12 seconds. Senator WONG: I was assisting the senator with the costs for which there has been an additional appropriation. I said, I think, capital costs associated with regional processing centres and operating costs— (Time expired)