Senator WONG (South Australia—Minister for Finance and Deregulation) (14:42): I am happy to answer those aspects of the question which relate to the Finance portfolio. I suspect some of the aspects of the question relate to the Minister for Immigration and Citizenship. It is the case that in the midyear review there is an upward estimates variation of in excess of $1 million, $1.1 billion in 2012-13. The estimates variation includes the increase in actual arrivals to date, transitioning down to a lower level by the end of 2012-13 and staying there over the forwards. I should indicate, because I think Senator Cash referred to this, that this figure does not include all of the costs for managing the response to the Houston report. Some of those are measures which are reported elsewhere. There is also in the midyear review an indication of the increased direct costs to DIAC of the increases to the humanitarian program of an additional 6,250 places per annum and increases to the family reunion stream of the permanent migration program. In terms of the expenses by function table, there is an increase of half a billion dollars in 2012-13. The $1.1 billion includes increases to functions other than DIAC—for example, healthcare provided to asylum seekers gets picked up under health spending and the table also does not include as yet— Senator Cash: I raise a point of order in relation to direct relevance. My question was actually in relation to when the government will come clean with the Australian people and tell them what their revised estimates are in relation to monthly arrivals. I notice that in the answer the minister gave, she did refer to the fact that the government has revised upwards the number of arrivals and I would like the minister to state for the record and answer the question: what is the exact number the monthly arrivals have been revised up to? Senator Jacinta Collins: On the point of order: Senator Wong once again has been dealing with the question as it was asked. At the commencement of her question, Senator Cash referred to MYEFO and a purported $1.2 billion immigration blow out. It is these issues that Senator Wong is addressing. She also indicated she would seek to answer the question with respect to those matters that related to her finance portfolio and is indeed seeking to do so. Senator Brandis: On the point of order: as Senator Cash pointed out, the minister has conceded there has been an upward revision. She was asked what it was. If it is conceded there is an upward revision then the minister must be in a position to tell the Senate what the upward revision is, and that was the whole point of the question. The PRESIDENT: Order! There is no point of order. The minister is addressing the question and still has 14 seconds remaining. Senator WONG: We have been upfront about the increased costs, which have resulted in great part from the difficulties the government has had in getting legislation in relation to this issue through the parliament. (Time expired)