Senator WONG (South Australia—Minister for Finance and Deregulation) (14:20): Mr President, I refer to my first answer in response to that. I have no idea on what basis Senator Ronaldson is creating a range of figures to put to me. This perhaps is the same approach that we see from the coalition time and time again, the people who use catering companies to do their costing— Senator Brandis: That's rubbish, Penny. Senator WONG: It is not rubbish. It is what you did. These are the people who use accountants who have been found to have acted unprofessionally and the people who refuse to comply with the Charter of Budget Honesty because they do not want Australians to know what they are planning. But I tell you what: Premier Newman has shown precisely what their plans are, because the $70 billion that they have to find, if they ever get into government, we know will end up with job cuts. (Time expired)