Senator CONROY (Victoria—Minister for Broadband, Communications and the Digital Economy, Deputy Leader of the Government in the Senate and Minister Assisting the Prime Minister on Digital Productivity) (14:54): Yes, it is pretty clear which side he is on, is it not, Senator Cameron? The whole question is based on a false premise. If you go back to Hansard and have a look at that question, you will see it begins with an entirely false premise. He then builds up the usual rant, but clearly Senator Birmingham has been got to. Clearly— Senator Brandis interjecting— Senator CONROY: You could stand up and tell Mr Abbott to support the charter of independence. Why do you not stand up, Senator Brandis, and ask Mr Abbott to support Mr Turnbull on this one? The PRESIDENT: Order! Senator Conroy, ignore the interjection and address your comments to the chair and not across the chamber. Those on my left, cease interjecting. Senator CONROY: My apologies, Mr President. I was outrageously distracted—'provoked' would possibly be a better word. There is clearly a divide on the other side. Senator Birmingham's question demonstrates that he is just spending his time, once again, crawling to Mr Abbott—backing up Mr Abbott instead of getting behind the principled position of Mr Turnbull on this one. As Mr Turnbull has said, 'Sign the charter of editorial independence.' That is— (Time expired)