Senator WONG (South Australia—Minister for Finance and Deregulation) (14:18): I think I said yesterday, and the senator referred to it in his question, that employment is anticipated to grow by 2020 by 1.6 million jobs. I am very pleased that Senator Bernardi has in fact acknowledged that employment will grow by 1.6 million jobs by 2020 with a carbon price. As the senator knows, there will be many, many different jobs created in the Australian economy. I hope there will be many jobs created in the Australian economy in years to come. I certainly hope also there will be many jobs in the clean energy sector as we see increased generation from renewables and clean energy, but— Senator Bernardi: Mr President, I rise on a point of order that goes to relevance once again. I have asked about the definition of 'green jobs' and the minister is not being relevant to the question; she is just chattering on trying to defend her very poor legacy. The PRESIDENT: The minister is answering the question. The minister has 23 seconds remaining to answer the question. Senator Abetz: Mr President, I rise on the point of order. Could you please explain to the Senate how on earth the minister is being directly relevant, as is required under sessional orders, to the question asked by Senator Bernardi? I would invite you to give us a written ruling after question time, but, with great respect, Mr President, there is nothing in that answer thus far that is in any way relevant, let alone directly relevant, to the question that was asked. The PRESIDENT: There is no point of order. The senator has 23 seconds remaining to answer the question. Senator WONG: As I have said, employment will grow by 2020 by 1.6 million jobs. I would invite those opposite to consider the Treasury modelling, which also looks at industry sectors, and those industry sectors include renewable energy and clean energy, which I assume would fall within Senator Bernardi's definition of a 'green job'.