Senator LUNDY (Australian Capital Territory—Minister Assisting for Industry and Innovation, Minister for Multicultural Affairs and Minister for Sport) (14:59): Of course, if the coalition were to agree with Labor's approach and support the proposed Malaysian arrangement, we would not be in the situation we are in with the rising numbers. That is, it is worth making the point—it is not in relation to your question but let me answer the question again— Senator Brandis: Mr President, I rise on a point of order— The PRESIDENT: Order! I am going to draw Senator Lundy's attention to the question—there is no need for a point of order, Senator Brandis. Senator Lundy, there has been a question asked; you need to address the question that has been asked, not one that you might choose to answer. Senator LUNDY: Thank you, Mr President. I take your admonishment, but it was important background to my response to Senator Cash. Senator Cash, I have said I will take the specifics of your question on notice to make sure we get the accurate details to you. I believe this is an area which you have thoroughly canvassed at some length at Senate estimates. If you are still waiting for the department's answer, I am sure it will be forthcoming very soon and we will undertake to provide you with the detail. Senator Chris Evans: Mr President, I ask that further questions be placed on the Notice Paper.