Senator WONG (South Australia—Minister for Finance and Deregulation) (14:34): I thank the senator for her question. This government understands that you have to cost policies and you have to fund them. That is what we have certainly done in our budget. That is what we have done in the mid-year review. Opposition senators interjecting— Senator WONG: I know they do not want to hear this. The PRESIDENT: Order! On my left, when there is silence we will proceed. Senator WONG: I somehow do not think Senator Sinodinos was laughing then. But, anyway, we will come to that point. We have laid out our plans in our budget. We found $100 billion worth of savings over a number of budgets, and we have laid out our plans, including what we will cut in order to fund things. Senator Cormann interjecting— Senator WONG: But of course the alternative approach—and I am surprised that Senator Cormann is interjecting, because it is embarrassing as a member of the economic team on the other side—is to do what the opposition is doing, which is to try and hide your $70 billion black hole, not tell anybody what your budget position is, not tell anybody what you are going to cut, not tell anybody how you are going to fund anything and certainly not do any proper costings. So what we have seen is Mr Robb and Mr Hockey trying to hide from the Australian people the true position of what the budget would look like under Tony Abbott. And, because they are refusing to tell anybody, we thought we would give them a helping hand. So I released yesterday what the 2012-13 budget would look like under Tony Abbott: a $9 billion deficit. The PRESIDENT: Order! Senator Wong, you should not wave documents around in the chamber. Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order! I remind honourable senators on both sides that the time for debating this is at the end of question time. Senator Wong, I will give you the call when there is silence on both sides. Senator Cormann interjecting— Senator Conroy interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Senators Cormann and Conroy, I am waiting for both of you to be silent so I can call the minister. Senator WONG: A $9 billion deficit, that is what a coalition government would deliver were it in government now. Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: If you want to debate the issue you can debate it at the end of question time. Senator WONG: I can understand why Senator Cormann has not shut up at one point during this answer. He did not yesterday, on Twitter, either. He is extremely embarrassed as a so-called senior member of the economic team that people are actually starting to ask what the true budget position would be under you. (Time expired) Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: If you wish to debate this amongst yourselves, you are just taking up question time.