Senator HANSON-YOUNG (South Australia) (14:30): Mr President, I ask a supplementary question. I thank the minister for his information, although I bring to the chamber's attention that he did not answer the question about meeting the Dalai Lama. I would like to know, Mr President, knowing that there have been 30 Tibetan monks, nuns and ordinary citizens, such as mothers, farmers and teenagers, who have self-immolated in protest since 2009—17 this year alone—does the foreign minister agree with his counterparts in Beijing that these people are nothing but criminals and have bad reputations in society?