Senator CARR (Victoria—Minister for Manufacturing and Minister for Defence Materiel) (15:00): This is a country that should dream large. And, unlike the knuckle-draggers on the other side of the chamber, we are committed to ensure that this country achieves greatness. We aspire to improve the opportunities for all our people both in terms of— Opposition senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Senator Carr, I think you might just resume your seat for a moment until we get a little bit of order. I know there is a little bit of excitement in the chamber, but if you could just calm down for another 41 seconds so Senator Carr can complete his answer. Senator CARR: We would not expect the philistines opposite to understand this fundamental premise, but we do have a serious situation in this country. This is a government that is committed to ensure that we invest in manufacturing, we invest in Australian jobs and we invest in prosperity. We are investing some $445 million in programs specifically aimed to assist Australian defence industries through the period 2018-19. We are looking at ensuring that we have the skills available to meet the requirements of our defence forces, to meet the skill requirements of our defence companies, and to ensure that we provide the necessary capabilities so that Australian industry can—(Time expired) Senator Chris Evans: Mr President, while I would like to hear Senator Carr expand on those views, I suggest that we put further questions on the Notice Paper.