Senator LUDWIG (Queensland—Minister for Agriculture, Fisheries and Forestry, Manager of Government Business in the Senate and Minister Assisting the Attorney-General on Queensland Floods Recovery) (14:31): Can I add, as I think we should at least ensure that the record is clear, in terms of prosecution policy in relation to minors, minors are only prosecuted for people-smuggling offences in exceptional circumstances on the basis of their significant involvement in a people-smuggling venture or in multiple ventures. Where the age determination process determines the person, as I indicated earlier, is a minor and there are no exceptional circumstances, that person is returned to their country of origin. If there are exceptional circumstances and the minor is convicted, mandatory minimum penalties do not apply to that person. To date the Commonwealth has not proceeded with prosecutions where the court has determined a defendant is a minor. Senator Bob Brown: Mr President, on a point of order: at least three times Senator Hanson-Young has asked whether 40 or so minors are subject to an inquiry from Indonesian authorities and said, 'Would he answer that question?' He has only 14 seconds in which to say whether that is the case or not. The PRESIDENT: There is no point of order. I am listening closely to the minister's answer. I believe the minister is answering the question. The minister does have 14 seconds remaining in which to answer the question. Senator LUDWIG: Dealing with broadly the first question and the second question, I will take those on notice and I will ask whether the home affairs minister will provide any additional information given the range of questions that have been asked. (Time expired)