Senator LUDWIG (Queensland—Minister for Agriculture, Fisheries and Forestry, Manager of Government Business in the Senate and Minister Assisting the Attorney-General on Queensland Floods Recovery) (14:57): I thank Senator Xenophon for his question. First and foremost, as I said, it is important to acknowledge that the department's biosecurity staff have developed a set of import conditions. So there are import conditions to manage the risk associated with this trade. There has already been an incursion of—this is a very early point of order— Senator Joyce: It is very early because it is very important. Mr President, my point of order goes to relevance—a very important point of relevance. The question asked 'what compensation', Minister. That is what everybody wants to know. Senator Conroy: Mr President, I rise on the point of order. Senator Ludwig's answer was absolutely to the point of the question. It is utterly time wasting of Senator Joyce to just stand up and try to make a simple political point because he cannot get the answer that he wants from Senator Ludwig. Senator Ludwig could not have been more relevant to the question in his answer so far and he still has 37 seconds left. It is a ridiculous point of order designed to waste time. The PRESIDENT: Senator Conroy, I am aware of the fact that the minister has 37 seconds left. I am listening closely to the minister's answer and the minister is aware of what the question is. Senator LUDWIG: In 1999, when Australia lost its case in the WTO on the importation of salmon products, guess who said that the government would not indemnify the industry against an incursion? It was Mr John Howard. We have pest and disease incursion arrangements in place to address incursions. That is what we have done. These arrangements place obligations on government, state and federal—and in certain circumstances on industry themselves—to manage the post-border, the border and the pre-border arrangements. That is what we have in place.