Senator RYAN (Victoria) (14:00): My question is to the Minister representing the Minister for Climate Change and Energy Efficiency, Senator Wong. I refer to today's Deloitte's modelling commissioned by the Victorian state government which reveals that in 2015 the carbon tax will cost 23,000 jobs in Victoria. As the Treasury has not modelled the impact of carbon tax on employment in individual states and, in fact, assumes the carbon tax will have no impact on jobs in the long run, how can you dispute these figures? Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order! I remind the Senate the time for debating this issue is after three o'clock. Senator Cormann interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Senator Cormann! I have just reminded senators about the time to debate the issue.