Senator LUDWIG (Queensland—Minister for Agriculture, Fisheries and Forestry, Manager of Government Business in the Senate and Minister Assisting the Attorney-General on Queensland Floods Recovery) (14:04): In dealing with the first part, the suspension order has been lifted. When will the trade resume? Industry is now able to apply for export permits and once their applications can demonstrate that they can meet the conditions we expect the permits will be issued. In addition, I am advised that the Indonesian government will now issue import permits which are necessary for the trade to recommence. This is the first important step in recommencing this trade and getting it up and running as quickly as possible. That is the best form of outcome— Senator Back: Mr President, I rise on a point of order. I thank the minister, but can he actually tell us: will he assure— Senator Conroy: What's the point of order? It's called relevance. Senator Back: Thank you very much, Senator Conroy, through you, Mr President. Yes, it is on relevance. The question I did ask was relating to compensation to families affected by this ban. The PRESIDENT: I believe the minister is answering the question. The question was broader than that. The minister has 25 seconds remaining to answer the question. Senator LUDWIG: What industry have indicated to me constantly throughout this is that the best form of assistance they can get is for this industry to be put up on its footing again on a sustainable basis for the longer term, and that is what this government has done. Those on the other side might complain and whinge. What they never did was ensure that self-regulation would actually deliver the animal welfare outcomes. (Time expired)