Senator WONG (South Australia—Minister for Finance and Deregulation) (14:06): This from the man who presided over the Work Choices advertising campaign. How many millions of dollars in mousepads and fridge magnets did Senator Abetz sign off on in order to convince Australians that somehow reducing penalty rates— Senator Ian Macdonald: On a point of order, Mr President: question time becomes a farce when ministers simply attack the questioner instead of attempting to answer the question. On the point of relevance: nowhere has the minister in her 15 seconds so far even bothered to address the question. She has simply, as she always does, attacked the questioner personally because quite obviously she is incapable of addressing the substantive part of the question. Senator Ludwig: On the point of order, Mr President: I will not be drawn on the way Senator Macdonald attacks questioners and the technique that he uses. Senator Abetz interjecting— The PRESIDENT: This is not the time to debate the issue. Senator Ludwig: The minister has been directly answering the question. The minister has been ensuring that she meets the question. In the stretch of the question that Senator Abetz raised, it is within the ability of the minister to range a little more widely than usual. That is acceptable in providing a direct response. The PRESIDENT: The minister has been going 15 seconds, as has been rightly pointed out. I am listening closely to the answer of the minister. The minister knows the question which has been asked and has 45 seconds remaining. Senator WONG: I was simply pointing out the hypocrisy of Senator Abetz, of all people, asking the government about communications and advertising when he presided over the largest advertising campaign, some $55 million, to convince Australians that taking away their penalty rates and other conditions was a good thing. Again I remind the Senate that China is the world's largest producer of both wind turbines and solar panels. It has added some 37 gigawatts of renewable power capacity, more than any other country in the world. Its target is to reduce carbon emissions per unit of GDP by 40 to 45 per cent by 2020. And on a per capita basis, China's level of pollution is about six tonnes a person and ours is 27. (Time expired)