Senator WONG (South Australia—Minister for Finance and Deregulation) (14:46): What is interesting is the senator's interest in the automotive sector when those opposite, on various occasions in various types of costings plans and savings plans, have sought to reduce some of the assistance to the car sector. We have made clear that we will retain the other components of the $5.4 billion new-car plan. That is a very substantial investment in the automotive sector by the government which, in tight fiscal circumstances, has committed to continue because we understand the importance of providing assistance. Senator Brandis: The livestock industry, the coal industry and now the automotive industry. Senator WONG: It is interesting to note Senator Brandis interjecting. He used to believe in a carbon price—but nothing now! Where are you, George? (Time expired) Senator Brandis: I never supported a carbon tax. Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: You can debate the issue at the end of question time, on both sides.