Senator WONG (South Australia—Minister for Finance and Deregulation) (14:31): I was listening to a speech once in this chamber from a senator from South Australia who argued for a carbon price. He looked remarkably like the gentleman who just asked me a question. It is quite extraordinary, isn't it, the way in which those on the other side—who once believed that climate change is real and once believed in an economically rational approach to dealing with it—now come into this place and ask questions like that. Here is another one— Senator Brandis: Mr President, I rise on a point of order on the issue of direct relevance. The minister was asked about the differential impact of a carbon price on domestically produced and imported goods. She is more than halfway through her answer and she has engaged in nothing but ritualistic abuse of the questioner. She has not approached the question. She has not been relevant, let alone directly relevant. Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: There is no point of order. Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order on both sides! Listening to some of the answers today has been difficult because of the constant interjections from both sides. It will help the conduct of question time and my capacity to hear the answers fully if those people who are interjecting cease their interjections. The interjections sometimes overtake the question that has been asked. Senator Wong, you have 24 seconds remaining to address the question that you were asked by Senator Birmingham as a supplementary question. Senator WONG: What Senator Birmingham is asserting is essentially that no-one else is doing anything. That is essentially what he is asserting, and we know that that is wrong; we know that that is not true. We know that a price on carbon has existed in Europe since 2005. We know that the United States is now investing more in clean energy than in conventional sources. We know the action that China is taking, we know that India is taxing coal, but those on the other side persist in perpetuating a myth. (Time expired)