Senator WONG (South Australia—Minister for Finance and Deregulation) (14:16): It does sound like we have got to an estimates question pretty quickly. My recollection of Minister Crean's announcement is that it is obviously his portfolio as that was a grants based program. My recollection is also that provision for at least some of this fund was made in the MYEFO as well as referenced in last night's budget, but I can come back to the senator in more detail on that. I think the question is about profiling of that particular line item of the federal budget and I do not have that detail in front of me. It is the case— Senator Joyce: Mr President, I rise on a point of order on relevance. If the minister does not know the answer, or is not capable of giving the answer, she can just take it on notice and get back to us. We do not need to waste any more time. The PRESIDENT: Senator Joyce, there is no point of order. Senator WONG: Thank you, Mr President. As I said there is $1 billion in the Regional Development Australia Fund which is about additional investment in economic and community infrastructure in regional Australia. The senator might also be aware that, through Minister Crean's portfolios, we have— Senator Joyce: Mr President, I rise once more on a point of order on relevance. The minister has approximately six seconds to say a number. She either knows the number or she does not know the number. She is the finance minister; she might possibly be able to have a crack at it. All we need is the number of how much, over the next four years, is actually listed in the budget. Senator Ludwig: Mr President, on the point of order: Senator Wong has indicated that the question is most likely well outside the budget portfolio that she has. Together with that, it is a question about an announcement in March by the regional development minister, Simon Crean, about a $1 billion announcement. Minister Wong also indicated that she would have a look at that. But, notwithstanding that response, Minister Wong was also directly relevant to the question by dealing with the substance of the matter—that is, the question around the $1 billion announcement. All of that means that Senator Joyce is well outside his comfort zone in asking this question and I would ask that no point of order be recorded. The PRESIDENT: There is no point of order. Senator WONG: Thank you, Mr President. My recollection is that Minister Crean, prior to the budget, did announce guidelines for the program the senator has mentioned.