Senator WONG (South Australia—Minister for Finance and Deregulation) (14:06): If it was so easy, why did you never achieve it? Senator Cormann interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Senator Cormann, you have been given your chance to ask the question. I want to listen to the answer. There have been many people interjecting on both sides, which is completely disorderly, and everyone knows that. Senator WONG: If it was so easy, why did they never achieve it? That is the first response. Why did they never achieve this amount of spending restraint? But the more important issue is this: the shadow Treasurer— The PRESIDENT: Senator Wong, resume your seat. If you want to debate the issue, the time to debate the issue is after question time. I have just reminded the Senate that interjections are disorderly. Senator WONG: I can understand why they want to interrupt. Their shadow Treasurer has given the most embarrassing performance that an opposition has given in a very long time. This is a shadow Treasurer who says he wants to bring the budget back to surplus earlier, who says there are not enough tough savings and now has opposed at least two or three of the saves. How is it possible that you can come back to surplus and oppose savings measures? Perhaps the opposition should have a think about that.