Senator CHRIS EVANS (Western Australia—Minister for Tertiary Education, Skills, Jobs and Workplace Relations and Leader of the Government in the Senate) (14:57): As I said, Mr President, I did receive some advice, which was that we will not be taking lessons in compassion from the Liberal Party. Senator, your record on children in detention is an appalling one. Even John Howard was finally embarrassed out of that position. So do not try to lecture me on compassion for children. We actually put in place better arrangements for children so that they receive proper care. What is absolutely central to the arrangement with Malaysia is that the government has made it very clear that there be no refoulement of those who are transferred under the scheme. Opposition senators interjecting— Senator CHRIS EVANS: Senator, do you want to withdraw that? You do not want to withdraw that. Senator, that stands as a mark about you. (Time expired)