Senator CARR (Victoria—Minister for Innovation, Industry, Science and Research) (14:24): Mr President, I thank Senator Cash for her question. Following a small fire on 19 March 2011, New South Wales police took possession of what they have referred to as a bomb. Importantly, the department did act appropriately in calling the fire brigade in the first instance and then alerting the police, who are now investigating the incident. Whether the device was actually a bomb or not is a matter for police investigation. The fire was discovered and extinguished by Serco officers at 3.20 am on Saturday, 19 March 2011. Local emergency services were immediately called. The New South Wales police attended at approximately— Senator Cash: Mr President, I rise on a point of order going to relevance. While I appreciate the minister's information in relation to what occurred at the detention centre, I am not asking about that. I am asking: what type of incident needs to occur for this government to consider it a major incident? Senator Chris Evans: Mr President, on the point of order. It is clearly appropriate for Senator Carr, as a representing minister, to provide information from the brief he has from the responsible minister. It is directly on the topic that Senator Cash addressed to him. She has two supplementary questions to follow up with if she wishes further information. But he has been directly on the topic, providing what information he has about the incident, and it is quite outrageous to suggest that he is not being relevant. If there are other matters that are not covered in his primary answer, the senator has the opportunity to ask two supplementary questions. Senator Carr is being as helpful as he can be by providing the information that is supplied to him. The PRESIDENT: There is no point of order. Senator CARR: Mr President, I have been asked by Senator Cash about an incident that occurred at the centre on 19 March 2011. I am providing information. She has sought to rely on a newspaper report of the allegations as to what occurred on this occasion. I have provided information to the Senate on the basis of the information that has been provided to me by the minister. What I can indicate is that the New South Wales police are making inquiries into the nature of the events that occurred and that no person of interest in relation to the incident has been identified at this stage. The department advised the minister's office of the fire at the time but not of the discovery of the device or that the police had taken it for examination as possible evidence. In terms of what the senator seeks to assert is a matter of priority, that is entirely hypothetical.