Senator CHRIS EVANS (Western Australia—Minister for Tertiary Education, Skills, Jobs and Workplace Relations and Leader of the Government in the Senate) (14:21): I will tell you what Australian families will be doing. They will be listening to this question and saying, 'Where have the Liberal Party gone? Why are they not addressing the issues of mental health, schools, tertiary education and all the issues that are important to Australians?' We have a question, first of all, about what is not in the budget, a supplementary about what was in last year's budget and then a clever question that tried to bring them all together that said, 'Spending in last year's budget was for a program you did not introduce until this year's budget.' You are a disgrace. This is a complete nonsense. Senator Brandis: Mr President, a point of order is on relevance: there was nothing in the answer to the primary question other than abuse of the Leader of the Opposition. There was nothing in the answer to the supplementary question other than abuse of the Leader of the Opposition. Although the minister has 21 seconds to go— Opposition senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Senator Brandis, there is a discussion that is taking place very close to you and I am being distracted by that. Senator Abetz: I didn't say a word! The PRESIDENT: I did not say you had said a word. Senator Brandis, you are entitled to be heard. Senator BRANDIS: Although the minister has 21 seconds to go, there has been nothing so far in this answer other than abuse of the Leader of the Opposition. Given that there has been literally nothing relevant in the answers to the primary question and the first supplementary question, it is not too soon, Mr President, for you now to rule—given the approach that the minister is taking—that his answer is not relevant and he should be drawn to the question. The PRESIDENT: Minister, you have 21 seconds remaining to answer the question. There is no point of order. Senator CHRIS EVANS: I have made it very clear to the Senate that the procedures in relation to carbon price being reflected in the budget will be the procedures that have applied in the past, as they were when the GST was introduced. It is a shame that the Liberal Party are so incompetent that they have no questions about the budget. (Time expired)