Mr ALBANESE (Grayndler—Prime Minister) (14:44): I thank the member for Cook for his question but I'm somewhat sceptical of the premise there. The premise is that a non-coalition member was on Sky News yesterday! Mr Kennedy interjecting— The SPEAKER: The member for Cook has asked his question. Mr ALBANESE: One by one, every member of the National Party and the Liberal Party are queueing up to be on Sky News to attack each other, to point out the issues. Kieran Gilbert is a very good interviewer indeed, I've got to say. I missed his interview yesterday but I am aware of what the member for Cook has said about the issues when it comes— The SPEAKER: The Prime Minister is one minute in, and he is referring to the person who asked him the question. It's going to be hard to take a point of relevance— Mr Kennedy interjecting— The SPEAKER: Order! Let me finish and you will get a full say, trust me. In light of the standing orders, if you ask a question the person answering the question is going to refer to you in your question. Mr Kennedy: Point of order on relevance. He was only asked about the member for Solomon's comments and the 20 per cent decrease—nothing on the opposition. The SPEAKER: I don't know what the Prime Minister was going to say because he was going to mention you. The point of order on relevance has now been taken. There can be no more points of order on relevance. The Prime Minister has the call and I am going to listen carefully to make sure he is being directly relevant. Mr ALBANESE: There were a range of issues in the question. One was about Sky News, and I've said I'm surprised there is any room for anyone but members of the coalition! I was then asked about Kieran Gilbert, and I've praised Kieran Gilbert. Mr Small interjecting— The SPEAKER: The member for Forrest! Mr ALBANESE: He did a terrific job coming to APEC and to ASEAN on the weekend. Mr Small interjecting— The SPEAKER: The member for Forrest will leave the chamber under 94(a). If I call you to stop interjecting, that's a really big clue to stop interjecting. The member for Forrest then left the chamber . Mr ALBANESE: Kieran Gilbert travelled because he was actually interested in engaging with Australia's relationships in the world. The issue of climate change was one of the focuses of APEC, of how the region transitions to a clean energy economy. That was very much part of the debate. I did an interview myself with Kieran Gilbert on the Sunday program; I recommend it to the member for Cook. I'm also asked about policies when it comes to energy and power. I am aware, given I was asked by the member for Cook, that when he was working at McKinsey he produced an article titled 'Carbon light: how Australia can power ahead in a net zero world.' Mr Kennedy interjecting— The SPEAKER: The member for Cook will remain silent for the remainder of the answer. Mr ALBANESE: I recommend it to his colleagues who are going through 'the hunger games' over there. What he said about prices was that McKinsey analysis estimates that these opportunities would add about $75 billion to the Australian economy each year through to 2035 as well as an additional 130,000 direct jobs over the period. If I can give the member for Cook a bit of advice: back in the former member for Cook's policy of net zero by 2050, circulate that article and then do a bit of a multiple-choice question in the next party room meeting. (Time expired)