Senator AYRES (New South Wales—Minister for Industry and Innovation and Minister for Science) (14:45): Senator, thank you for that question. I know this is the states house, but I would not pit Australians against each other on these questions. Investment in South Australia, which is a very good investment—it's very important to take that facility away from its owner, who was running it into the ground, against our national interest and industrial capability—is a good thing for Australia and a good thing for South Australians. It maintains our iron- and steel-making capability in Australia while we build for the future. You are right to point to Western Australia's enormous potential advantage here. What this government is trying to do is achieve two objectives—all of them opposed by the Liberals and Nationals, and Lord knows what the One Nation party's position is on these questions. We are for a future made in Australia for this sector, and we're doing it for two reasons. One is to secure future iron production in Australia and move up the value chain to secure good jobs. Senator Payman: On a point of relevance, President, I was asking specifically about the Geraldton port funding. I know there was a preamble, but you could you please direct the minister. The PRESIDENT: The minister is being relevant to your question, Senator Payman. Senator AYRES: There are two purposes. One is to move Australia up the value chain and secure this industrial capability and good-quality blue-collar jobs in our regions, and that is very much a Western Australian story. Secondly, the objective here is to protect the future of our iron ore sector, which cannot be left unprotected to be entirely reliant upon its current export markets, because some of our customers are moving to diversify their supply chains, and that puts our iron ore sector—if we are not thoughtful about planning for the future—at some competitive disadvantage. That's the focus of our policy. That's what we're going to do. The PRESIDENT: Senator Payman, first supplementary?