Ms WELLS (Lilley—Minister for Sport and Minister for Communications) (15:17): Thank you to the Leader of the Opposition for her question. I will deal with various elements of it. With respect to penalties, as I said in my previous answer, there is a bill before the House, the Telecommunications Amendment (Enhancing Consumer Safeguards) Bill 2025. It's an amendment to the Telecommunications Act. It was introduced on 28 August. It was debated on 4 September. The shadow minister for communications herself debated this bill on 4 September. Mrs McIntosh: Before the outage. The SPEAKER: Order! The member for Lindsay has the MPI. She won't be here for it if she continues interjecting, which means we won't have the debate. Ms WELLS: The shadow minister for communications spoke on this bill about enhancing consumer safeguards on 4 September. She spoke about penalties on 4 September. She spoke about her support for the increase in penalties up to $10 million and, in some particular cases, even more than that. She spoke in support of that work. So I would contend it is confusing for her, having done that on 4 September, to now bring an amendment to a different bill and object to us not supporting that amendment because we have already done this work which she has already supported in this place. Opposition members interjecting— The SPEAKER: Order, members on my left! Mr Chester interjecting— The SPEAKER: The member for Gippsland is warned. Ms WELLS: Nonetheless, we can all agree, surely, that what happened in September was not good enough, and the Albanese government will always work to protect Australians and we will always work to hold those who fail to deliver on their obligations to full account. There are several investigations underway now to this effect. If a telco fails Australians as Optus did, it will face real and serious consequences. There are no excuses. Telcos must deliver resilient and reliable triple 0 services. That is their obligation under the law, and that is the work we will continue to do on this side of the House to hold them to account.