Mr ALBANESE (Grayndler—Prime Minister) (14:59): I thank the member for Bradfield for his question. The member for Bradfield, when it comes to Indigenous affairs, does have an interest—he's so interested that he held two forums during the referendum: one for yes, and one for no. That's how interested and committed he is in advancing the interests of Indigenous Australians! I refer to my previous answer. I outlined, at Garma, a plan for economic empowerment. I'm outlining practical plans for housing: $4 billion for remote housing. We have an agreement through the schools agreement in the Northern Territory to lift people up on education— The SPEAKER: The Prime Minister will pause so I can hear from the Leader of the Opposition. Mr Dutton: A point of order on relevance: the question couldn't possibly be tighter; it was direct, and it deserves an honest and straightforward answer from the Prime Minister, which has escaped him so far. The SPEAKER: Has the Prime Minister concluded his answer? He's 40 seconds in. Mr Dutton interjecting— The SPEAKER: The Leader of the Opposition will cease interjecting. He's taken the point of order. And I'm just going to remind the Leader of the Opposition, and all members, that reflections on members are highly disorderly, and it goes to both sides—standing order 90; I just want to remind people about that standing order. You're entitled to make a point of order, but I'd just ask members not to reflect on members. The Prime Minister is 40 seconds in. For the remainder of his answer, he's going to have to be directly relevant. Mr ALBANESE: When it comes to makarrata, 'makarrata' of course means coming together after struggle. One of the things we're doing is consulting, post-referendum, as— Mr Dutton: Just answer the question! The SPEAKER: Order! The Leader of the Opposition! Mr ALBANESE: you expect us to do. A bloke who was responsible for questions being asked last year about whether interest rates would be determined by the Reserve Bank if the referendum was carried speaks about honesty when it comes to Indigenous affairs. The SPEAKER: The Prime Minister will return to the question. Mr ALBANESE: What we will do is consult. That is what we are continuing to do. We're consulting, but we're also putting out there a range of ideas that I would hope could get the support of people in this parliament, across the board—on economic empowerment, on opportunities for job creation. We have the beginning of the remote jobs plan as well, taking the old CDP and creating real jobs with real wages with real training for Indigenous people. That is precisely what we want to see to advance the interests of Indigenous Australians.