Senator WATT (Queensland—Minister for Employment and Workplace Relations) (14:55): Thank you, Senator Fawcett. I'm sure that Senator Fawcett would agree that Australia has a proud record of working with our international allies to help people escape from a crisis, such as what we are seeing in Gaza right now. The war between Israel and Hamas has displaced millions of Palestinians, and Australia has once again done its part. But we've not allowed this to comprise our national security. Our security and intelligence agencies have taken exactly the same approach here as they took with Ukrainians who arrived after the Russian invasion in 2022 and with Afghans who fled from the Taliban, under the former government. I'm a little surprised to hear someone like Senator Fawcett, who I know has a great deal of respect for our armed forces and our security agencies, question the judgement— Opposition senators interjecting— Senator WATT: Well, Senator Fawcett asked the question. Senator Fawcett's a big boy. He's okay. I am a little surprised to hear Senator Fawcett—who, as I said, I know has respect for the armed forces, as a former armed forces member himself—question the judgement of the Director-General of ASIO, Mr Mike Burgess. The PRESIDENT: Minister, please resume your seat. Senator Fawcett? Senator Fawcett: On relevance: the question was about the government's commitment to refer every application, not about the judgement of the director-general, who, as the minister correctly indicates, I have the highest regard for. The PRESIDENT: The minister is being relevant, and I'll continue to listen carefully. Senator WATT: Senator Fawcett, as I've already implied and will now make explicit, we are following exactly the same process as what occurred under the former government. Applicants for visas are checked for security risks, which is the case here. We are following exactly the same process. Mike Burgess, someone I have confidence in and our government has confidence in as the Director-General of ASIO, has said that this is the same process as what was followed under the former government and is the appropriate process. I think the question for the opposition is whether they have faith in ASIO or not. The PRESIDENT: Senator Fawcett, first supplementary?