Ms BURNEY (Barton—Minister for Indigenous Australians) (15:12): Defence is not my portfolio, I'll point out, and the Minister for Defence might like to take the question. But before he does that, can I say to you that the imagination you have is commendable! The Voice is about two things. It is about listening, and it is about changing practical outcomes for First Nations people. If the Minister for Defence wants to add to that, I invite him to.