Mr HUSIC (Chifley—Minister for Industry and Science) (14:30): I thank the member for Gippsland for the question. Obviously we want to see manufacturing jobs grow, particularly in our regions. That's why in the National Reconstruction Fund—which we're happy to get a question on; it would have been great to get your support for it——we wanted in particular to support a value-add in resources and in ag. Within agriculture, we targeted forestry— Opposition me mbers interjecting— The SPEAKER: Order! Mr HUSIC: I'll get to it—patience, patience. Opposition members interjecting— The SPEAKER: Order! Mr HUSIC: and we did want to provide for value-adding in those products. The SPEAKER: The member for Gippsland is on his feet. Mr HUSIC: Forty seconds! The SPEAKER: The minister will pause. I'm going to be firm on this. The minister is directly answering the question and mentioning parts of the question. I'm going to hear from the member for Gippsland. Mr Chester: The point of order is on relevance. The question specifically referred to the native hardwood timber industry and the National Reconstruction Fund. I do invite the minister to be relevant to the issue of the native hardwood timber industry, which the Prime Minister indicated last week would benefit from the— The SPEAKER: Resume your seat. The minister can continue. Mr HUSIC: Again, I come to the point that there will be other products that may be manufactured or produced here in this country using different sources of timber, and we will— Honourable members interjecting— The SPEAKER: Order! Members on my left! The Deputy Leader of the Opposition will cease interjecting. Mr HUSIC: We want to ensure that that manufacturing occurs onshore. It's a bit rich for them to suddenly come in here and ask what the National Reconstruction Fund will be able to do for regional communities when they never ever backed the fund. They were never prepared to back manufacturing and were not prepared to engage in this. From a variety of different sources—native hardwoods through to plantation—if there are products where we want to be able to value-add and produce those products here onshore, we want to support that. Mr Chester interjecting— The SPEAKER: The member for Gippsland has asked his question. Mr HUSIC: It would have been nice to get their support. Instead, they want to be able to do what they always do: say no, do nothing and then criticise at the end.