Mr ALBANESE (Grayndler—Prime Minister) (14:07): I thank the member for her question and I note that the member voted against energy price relief in this chamber. I note also that if you compare what was predicted to be the price rises in the October budget with our budget papers you'll see that our action in putting price caps on coal and gas energy has made a substantial difference—and that's what the experts all say. But I'm asked about cheaper energy, and I have seen a proposal for cheaper energy. I can inform the House that I've seen a proposal for free electricity. The member for New England had this to say about nuclear power: 'How about we do this? If you can see it your power is free!' Do you know what I think a lot of your listeners would do? They'd say, 'Paint it red and put it on a hill so I can have a good line of sight to it.' But it wasn't just a one-off, because the member for Hinkler came in and said: 'In my view—and this is just my view—it has to go to a community that supports it.' Mr Sukkar interjecting— The SPEAKER: The member for Deakin will cease interjecting. Mr ALBANESE: We know the big problem with them is that they had this policy. I know the Leader of the Opposition has problems with costing policies, but there is a costing here. The SPEAKER: The Deputy Leader of the Opposition on a point of order? Ms Ley: It's on relevance, Mr Speaker. It was a tight question: how can power prices rise by 25 per cent but fall by $275? The SPEAKER: Order! Resume your seat. The Prime Minister is being relevant regarding power bills and energy prices. I am listening to his answer carefully. The Prime Minister has the call. Mr ALBANESE: This quote is a cracker. It's about how things can cost something but apparently be free. In spite of the fact that the Leader of the Opposition doesn't believe in costing policies, here's one. He said: 'Do I think there are communities out there that want a $10 billion facility'—there's a costing for you; $10 billion for a small nuke plant—'and potentially want to get free electricity for everyone who lives in sight of that nuclear reactor?' There you go. It's going to cost $10 billion, but the energy will be free! Why didn't we think of that? Opposition members interjecting— Dr Chalmers interjecting— Mr Jones interjecting— The SPEAKER: Order! The Treasurer will cease interjecting and so will the Assistant Treasurer so I can hear from the member for Aston.