Ms BUTLER (Griffith) (14:46): My question is to the Minister for Energy and Emissions Reduction. I refer the minister to his previous answer. Can the minister confirm that he has been representing himself on the grasslands all along and told ABC Illawarra radio on 26 July, 'One of the landholders is me,' and, 'I make absolutely no apologies for standing up for farmers in my region; that includes me'? The SPEAKER: The Leader of the House, on a point of order? Mr Porter: It's true, he lives in— Mr McCormack interjecting— The SPEAKER: Deputy Prime Minister, your Leader of the House is seeking the call, if that's okay. Mr Porter: With respect to the exclusion of standing order 98(c) again, it would need to be relatable to that previous statement. The previous statement, as described in the question, was twofold: firstly, that the minister lives in his electorate on a farm; and secondly, that he's representing people in his electorate affected by the issue. Those are two different things. The SPEAKER: No, I'm going to allow the question. I think it's a straightforward question.