Mr TAYLOR (Hume—Minister for Energy and Emissions Reduction) (14:38): Thank you. I've been clear that my indirect interest in the Delegate farm is declared to the parliament in accordance with the rules. I've always been clear that the discussions with the department were to focus on the technical aspects of the revised listing, and they did. I advised the then minister of the compliance matter and of the need to avoid any discussion of the matter. The department confirmed at a Senate hearing that this approach was completely appropriate. Let's be clear: I declared my interest, the department already knew of the relationship and the meeting didn't discuss the compliance matter. The SPEAKER: The member for Ryan has the call.