Mr HOCKEY (North Sydney—The Treasurer) (14:52): That is a hypothetical, at any rate. I am glad I have a question from the member for McMahon, the shadow Treasurer. We were about to ask the Serjeant-at-Arms to call the roll to see if he was still here—two days after the budget. We stand by our forecast, and I tell you what: look behind you. There is the member for Lilley, who got every single number wrong. I tell you what—no, I am just kidding you. Mr Watts and Mr Conroy interjecting— The SPEAKER: The members for Gellibrand and Charlton are both warned! Mr HOCKEY: I tell you what I wanted to get out of my folder—this: 'Labor to launch prosperity commission to help shape economic policy.' Hullo? The SPEAKER: The Treasurer will resume his seat. The member for McMahon, on a point of order. Mr Bowen: Madam Speaker, I rise on a point of order. On a point of relevance, the Treasurer's forecasts turn on this very important question. If the Treasurer does not know the answer, he should just— The SPEAKER: The member will resume his seat. He knows perfectly well that standing orders may not be used to engage in argument, which is what he did then. Do it once more and you will leave the chamber. The Treasurer has the call. Mr HOCKEY: The honourable member would know that there is a particular part of the budget papers which deals with upside and downside risks. If you are asking me to hypothesise about a number, you are not going to get an answer, because we stand by our numbers. I tell you what: old 'Swannie' over there, the well-tanned member for Lilley—I know what he is up to— The SPEAKER: The Treasurer will resume his seat. Quite frankly, the member for Parramatta was on her feet before the Manager of Opposition Business. The member for Parramatta, on a point of order? Ms Owens: Madam Speaker, I rise on a point of order. I would ask that members refer to other members by their correct titles. The SPEAKER: Certainly. The Treasurer will resume his seat. The Manager of Opposition Business. Mr Burke: Madam Speaker, I rise on a point of order. When a question contains absolutely no argument, the relevance rulings must be more constrained. They must, by definition. The SPEAKER: There is no point of order. The member will resume his seat. I would suggest he goes back and takes a look at the discussion on the meaning of 'direct relevance'. It may assist him in his endeavours. I call the honourable the Treasurer, and please refer to people by their correct titles. Mr HOCKEY: I am sorry. I know what the member for Lilley is up to at the moment. He is trying to come back. Ms MacTiernan interjecting— The SPEAKER: The member for Perth is warned! Mr HOCKEY: He was the last Labor Treasurer to get every single number wrong, apart from the member for McMahon— Ms MacTiernan interjecting— The SPEAKER: The member for Perth will leave under 94(a). Mr HOCKEY: who got it $30 billion wrong when he said there would be an $18 billion dollar deficit and it turned out to be a $48 billion deficit. They are so proud of the effort of the member for Lilley. Listen to this: 'Labor to launch prosperity commission to help shape economic policy.' This is what we are going to hear tonight. The SPEAKER: The Treasurer will resume his seat. The member for Isaacs, on a point of order? Mr Dreyfus: Madam Speaker, I rise on a point of order. My point of order is under standing order 91. This Treasurer is wilfully disregarding the standing orders, making a mockery of the processes of this House, and you should call— The SPEAKER: There is no point of order. The member will resume his seat. Resume your seat. The Treasurer has the call. Mr HOCKEY: I think I am viewing witness protection. The SPEAKER: The Manager of Opposition Business. Mr Burke: Madam Speaker, I rise on a point of order. The rulings at the moment are making 'direct relevance' completely inoperable in this parliament—completely. You are letting him say— The SPEAKER: The member will resume his seat. What I am seeing is a deliberate campaign of points of order designed to stop and disrupt. That is what the evidence is showing me. The Treasurer has the call. Mr HOCKEY: Thank you, Madam Speaker. It says: Labor’s thinktank, the Chifley Research Centre, will … launch a new inclusive prosperity commission to help shape the opposition’s economic policy development process in the lead-up to the 2016 election. … … … The project will be led by … Wayne Swan— The SPEAKER: The member for Perth was asked to leave. The member for Perth then left the chamber. Mr HOCKEY: the former treasurer, who recently renominated for his Queensland seat of Lilley. Opposition members interjecting— Mr HOCKEY: I can hear all the cheers over there. I can hear the cheers all around the nation: 'Swannie is coming back! He did such a great job when he promised all those budget surpluses—we want him to come back!' And there are all his fans—they are all getting up. The SPEAKER: The member for Isaacs, on a point of order? Mr Dreyfus: Madam Speaker, I rise on a point of order. It is clear that the Treasurer does not know the answer to the question, but he needs to refer to— The SPEAKER: The member will resume his seat immediately. If you had made the second point the first time, you would have been in order and you ought to know that. The Treasurer has the call. Mr HOCKEY: The good news for Labor is that the future is here. They are going back to the future and getting the member for Lilley to do the numbers. I would urge the shadow Treasurer to speak to someone who got it wrong before as he is getting it wrong now. (Time expired)