Senator CORMANN (Western Australia—Minister for Finance) (14:55): The government has decided that given that most women can have access to only one scheme, whereas some women can have access to two schemes—a more generous scheme through their private or public sector employer—in those circumstances where women can have access to a more generous scheme through their private or public sector employer, in the current circumstances we are in it is not appropriate to expect the taxpayer to fund a second scheme. Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order on my left! Senator Collins! Senator CORMANN: In response to the personal question that Senator Dastyari has chosen to ask me, let me confirm for him that I indeed had a little child, in 2013, and that our family, of course, worked within the system that was available at the time, like any other family. My family will work within whatever system is in place in the future.