Mr ABBOTT (Warringah—Prime Minister) (14:16): This from a Leader of the Opposition who backstabbed two prime ministers. Really and truly—this from a Leader of the Opposition who showed such loyalty that he knifed two leaders of his own party. Ms Owens interjecting— The SPEAKER: The member for Parramatta is warned! Mr ABBOTT: This is a government that thinks of Medicare GP copayments but there is a better way of operating a health system— Ms Hall interjecting— The SPEAKER: The member for Shortland is warned! Mr ABBOTT: The change should hardly hurt at all. As economists have shown, the ideal model involves a small copayment, not enough to put a dent in your weekly budget but enough to make you think twice before you call the doc. Ms O'Neil interjecting— The SPEAKER: As is the member for Hotham warned! Mr ABBOTT: The idea is hardly radical. It is a very good position, and it is the position of Labor's shadow Assistant Treasurer. The SPEAKER: There are to be no props. The member for Fraser will put it down and hand it to the attendant. Mr ABBOTT: Our position when it comes to the Medicare copayment is exactly the same as Bob Hawke's position and it is exactly the same as the shadow Assistant Treasurer's position and it is the position that we are doing our best to negotiate with the Senate crossbench now. Mr Pyne: Madam Speaker, on a point of order: the shadow Assistant Treasurer is not in his correct seat. He is waving around props. You asked him to put it away; he continued to wave it around in defiance of what you had indicated to him. The opposition is an absolute rabble today—a cacophony of noise. I ask that you give a general warning, and that the shadow Assistant Treasurer be dealt with. The SPEAKER: I am aware of the position of frontbenchers moving on the frontbench, and in fairness to the member I did ask him to hand the prop to the attendant and he did attempt to, but the attendant walked past him. To be perfectly honest, I could not see the prop in the first instance because it was being blocked by the splendid head of the Leader of the Opposition.