Senator NASH (New South Wales—Deputy Leader of The Nationals in the Senate and Assistant Minister for Health) (14:14): Through you, Mr President, I am not going to answer a hypothetical question in this place. What I will rule out is inaction by this coalition government when we are looking to fix the future sustainability— The PRESIDENT: Pause the clock. Senator Di Natale—a point of order? Senator Di Natale: Yes, Mr President, I have a point of order. There is nothing hypothetical about the question. The health minister said this morning that he would not rule out using regulation to cut the Medicare rebate—his words, not mine. The PRESIDENT: Thank you, Senator Di Natale. There is no point of order. There was a hypothetical suggestion in part of your question, but the latter part of your question did contain a substantive question. Senator NASH: What I will rule out is this government doing nothing to fix the health system in the future, unlike those opposite, who did absolutely nothing in terms of having any vision whatsoever in where our health system was going to go. Those on the other side, when they were in government, thought it was absolutely fine to run up a debt with a trajectory of $667 billion. Those on the other side think it was absolutely fine to run up a debt of $1 billion. What we will not rule out is making sure we take solid, substantive action to ensure the future sustainability of this nation.